In recent months the baas
of the Second Vermont Republic
, Rob Williams
has been making thinly veiled comparisons between his moribund group and the Scottish National Party
. Let's take a look at that comparison.
SVR has existed for about a decade; the SNP
has existed for more than eight decades. The SNP
holds 10% of the seats in the Scottish House of Commons; SVR
has never occupied a legislative or statewide office, ever. Secessionists (Dennis Steele, Peter Diamondstone and Emily Peyton) have repeatedly failed to inspire public support beyond the single percentile; in fact, in their most ambitious attempt, the Steele gubernatorial campaign of 2010, the seceshers failed to do better than three quarters of one percent of the vote - more than 99% of Vermonters voted for someone other than the secesher Steele. The SNP
's widespread support in the Scottish body politic is contrasted by SVR
's utter lack of support from the public, political institutions, public bodies, educational institutions, clergy and, well, just about anyone you can think of. Other than its strident antipathy to rule seated in London at Westminster Parliament the SNP
has never engaged in the establishment of alliances with racist, white supremacist or homophobic hate groups as the SVR
has in furtherance of its goals; nor has the SNP
engaged in and promoted the base anti-Semitism as SVR
's "small community" of crackpots has.
One similar strategy of the two groups has been opposition to popular military projects. In SNP
's case it's the Trident nuclear sub base 40 miles from Glasgow; in SVR
's case it's opposition to basing of still to be developed F35s with the Vermont Air National Guard. In SVR
's case the opposition has taken a distinctly anti-VTANG tone, while the SNP
has engaged in no such demonizing of the military in general. Further, the SNP
has sought to establish common ground with the Labour Party, if not with the Conservative Party, in the upcoming election which will have the base as an issue, while the SVR
has fostered terrible relations with Vermont's congressional delegation, virtually all of its political parties (except for the Liberty Uniontards who never count), its statewide and legislative officials and Burlington's city administration (the F35s will be based at the city's airport). Hell, Williams can't even get his wife to support his movement.
's opposition to the nuclear fleet is based on real world considerations of affordability and Britain's future role in the world if it's to keep Scottish participation, while SVR
is basing its opposition to the F35s based on the loose interpretations of a patent attorney's thoughts on a limited number of documents received by a narrow FOIA request.
could very well shape the future of Britain's nuclear fleet, while the SVR
has virtually no chance of affecting the outcome of the F35 basing.
While the SNP
supports marriage equality SVR
proposes to set aside Vermont's now long established law based on its constitutional requirements on the matter in favor of a referendum majority decision on minority rights; likewise, it seems to want to take no position on women's reproductive freedom. Kinda makes one wonder what SVR
intends to do with Vermont's constitution which predates by more than a decade and a half its statehood.
"(T)he Second Vermont Republic takes no official position on such controversial issues as abortion, gay marriage, school prayer, and legalizing marijuana. These are issues for the citizens of the independent republic to decide."
SVR website FAQ, 3.28.15
's failed lieutenant gubernatorial candidate recently, according to SVR
, spoke to the South Burlington Rotary about... Wait for it... legalizing marijuana - go figure. Apparently the South Burlington Rotary thought so little of Peter Garritano's remarks that they made no mention of the attendee on their website as they normally do.
proposes expanding voter access while SVR
proposes curtailing and suppressing voter access through an outdated and archaic town meeting scheme. The SNP
stands for the eradication of poverty, the building of affordable social housing, free higher education as a matter of governance, while SVR
vaguely stands for such but only through a trickle down fashion from a poorly thought out public bank scheme.
first gained traction with the voting public with a influx of Labour Party members (kinda like Democrats), trade unions and the nuclear disarmament movement; SVR
has experienced no such influx, particularly among Vermont Democrats, unions and Vermont's small demilitarization movement with the exception of the aforementioned patent attorney and a sham radical, Juliet Buck, tied to SVR
In short, the Second Vermont Republic
isn't even remotely comparable to the actually secessionist movement Scottish National Party
has widespread community support as a political enterprise; the weenies at SVR
are a statewide standing joke.
More on the SNP
nuclear fleet issue here
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Labels: anti-Semitism, crackpots, discrimination, F35, Rob Williams, SNP, SVR