So-called Independent Addison County Senate Candidate, "Senator" Robert "Needed Killin'" Wagner, Tries to Finess the Unions and Addison County Voters
this post on "Senator" Robert "Needed Killin' " Wagner's rambling Facebook page. Wagner is the Vermont secession movement's candidate for one of Addison County's Senate seats who poses as an "independent." Wagner is, in truth, a committed, hardcore secesher who, beyond having said that one Addison County resident "needed killin'", hates the Union, Vermont's governmental institutions, virtually all statewide office holders and the legislative community (people who have been elected by their neighbors to serve in a variety of offices, something Wagner has never done), private property and assets, as well as all of the Vermont school system
Typically, the not ever likely to be "Senator" Wagner doesn't tell the whole truth, much like when he gave his position on education to the Addison Independent during his decidedly failed 2010 run for the Vermont Senate here.
You can find what Wagner really thinks by going through the archives of the Vermont secession movement's super secret "Free Vermont" listserv, a place where the seceshers chatted unguardedly since they thought Vermonters wouldn't find them out. At the time of this beaut, Wagner was using one of his pseudonyms on the listserv, Roderick Sticomythia; it comes from his "Position Papers 8. Education":
"This won't make me any friends, but I am against public education. It is a bad idea and a drain on community wealth, and it should be abolished. The large central schools which require mass driving and busing should be re-purposed; perhaps as shelters to house the suburbanites whose single-family homes in the sprawl will become worthless without affordable fuel to get there and back."Dennis "Hit List" Morrisseau chimed in later that day with a reply to Wagner's pseudonymous post:
"I am in favour of a return to small community-based and community-run schools, the smaller the better. Children need to be able to walk to school or be a short enough distance to make the trip economically feasible in post-peak-oil Vermont."
"I am against government-imposed standards of any kind, whether they be directed at the classroom, at the administration, or at the physical building itself. Montpelier has far exceeded its authority in the extension of standards into schools; first consolidating schools into large districts and closing down the small schoolhouses, and then failing to block US standards such as 'No Child Left Behind' and 'Race to the Top'. It all ends here and now."
"Government may not impose standards; however, Vermont's children lag behind the rest of the world in many areas. We should be providing tools and funds for schools to re-introduct(sic) young Vermonters to the rest of the world; through cultural exchange, language learning, the metric system, and many other areas. This is where public investment draws huge dividends."
Monday, December 14, 2009 13:18:21
"I happen to agree. Only people that might not is the entire teacher's union and all present overloaded bureaucratic (personal profit oriented!) structure."Naturally, there was no objection from Wagner/Sticomythia or any of the other secesher boneheads on the thread to Denny's design to hide what they intended until they were elected. Wagner is right about one thing though, he's not going to be making any friends by opposing public education. No wonder he hid his position at the secret listserv rather than tell the press or put it on his websites during his 2010 run or this go around by him for 2012. Figures.
"I strongly agree with this. Further, I will bet most Vermonters do."
"But if we provoke the T(eacher)'s Unions too early in our campaign they will be a HUGE PAIN IN THE ASS.....AND A VERY BIG BLOCKING FORCE. (ALL CAPS Denny's) This is one of the few places where i might want us to hold our punches until later....... Your thoughts?"
Monday, December 14, 2009 20:04:58
Wagner's Democratic opponents in this year's run for Addison County's two Senate seats, incumbent Claire Ayer and running mate Chris Bray, would do well to research some of Wagner's other positions on the searchable listserv.
Meanwhile, in another matter related to Wagner's conflicting positions, there's been no word yet about whether Wagner will be returning the $288.30 Federal subsidy he received while flying out of the airport in Rutland, VT, which is exactly the kind of Federal subsidy that he "is strongly opposed to" and has argued harms Vermonters that I revealed he'd hypocritically availed himself of (as in sticking his snout in the federal money trough) here. Wagner must publicly give back that subsidy money or he'll be exposed for the hypocritical fraud that many of us Vermonters know him to be.
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